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美国网友评论:优发优发国际准备由黄金支持人民定价原油

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  全球头号石油进口国优发优发国际准备发行以人民币计价、可转换成黄金的原油期货合约,该合约有望成为最重要的亚洲石油基准,并且允许出口商们绕过美元计价,用人民币交易。 日经亚洲评论报告。美国网友:一切都听起来很好,直到人们开始要黄金而不是人民币...然后另一个FIAT计划就废了。因为没有人有足够的实物黄金来做所有的事。   The crude oil futures will be the first commodity contract in China open to foreign investment funds, trading houses, and oil firms. The circumvention of U.S. dollar trade could allow oil exporters such as Russia and Iran, for example, to bypass U.S. sanctions by trading in yuan, according to Nikkei Asian Review.   原油期货将是优发优发国际向外国投资基金,贸易公司和石油公司开放的首个商品合约。 “日经亚洲评论”指出,这种绕过美元的交易方式,可以允许诸如俄罗斯、伊朗等石油出口国以人民币进行交易,从而避开美国的优发国际制裁。   To make the yuan-denominated contract more attractive, China plans the yuan to be fully convertible in gold on the Shanghai and Hong Kong exchanges.   为了使人民币的合约更具吸引力,优发优发国际计划将人民币在上海和香港交易所可以自由兑换黄金。   Last month, the Shanghai Futures Exchange and its subsidiary Shanghai International Energy Exchange, INE, successfully completed four tests in production environment for the crude oil futures, and the exchange continues with preparatory works for the listing of crude oil futures, aiming for the launch by the end of this year.   上个月,上海期货交易所及其子公司上海优发国际能源交易中心成功完成了四项原油期货生产环境测试,该交易所还将持续做好原油期货上市的准备工作,计划在今年年底完成该期货合约的上市。   “The rules of the global oil game may begin to change enormously,” Luke Gromen, founder of U.S.-based macroeconomic research company FFTT, told Nikkei Asia Review.   美国宏观优发国际研究公司FFTT创始人卢克·格罗门(Luke Gromen)告诉日经“亚洲评论”(Nikkei Asia Review),全球石油游戏规则可能开始大变化。   The yuan-denominated futures contract has been in the works for years, and after several delays, it looks like it may be launched this year.   以人民币计价的期货合约多年来一直在作品中,经过几次推迟,看起来在今年可能会推出。   Some potential foreign traders have been worried that the contract would be priced in yuan.   一些潜在的外贸商担心合同将以人民币计价。   But according to analysts who spoke to Nikkei Asian Review, backing the yuan-priced futures with gold would be appealing to oil exporters, especially to those that would rather avoid U.S. dollars in trade.   但据日经亚洲评论的分析师说,与黄金挂钩的人民币期货将吸引石油出口国,特别是那些希望避开美元交易的出口国。   “It is a mechanism which is likely to appeal to oil producers that prefer to avoid using dollars, and are not ready to accept that being paid in yuan for oil sales to China is a good idea either,” Alasdair Macleod, head of research at Goldmoney, told Nikkei.   “这可能是吸引那些石油生产者,为了既避免使用美元,也没有准备好接受以人民币支付的石油销往优发优发国际的一种机制”Alasdair Macleod,研究主管 Goldmoney告诉日经。   【以下是评论部份】   Bay of Pigs   Game changer if true.   如果是真的,那么优发优发国际就是规则改变者了   Creepy_Azz_Crackaah   They're not backing it with Bitcoin?   So many on ZH keep insisting that Bitcoin is **the** future and is WAY better than gold.  China obviously doesn't read the ZH comments.   他们不是用比特币支持?   这么多的ZH坚持认为比特币是**的未来,比黄金更好。 优发优发国际显然没有阅读ZH评论。   aloha_snakbar   That is a pretty small faction that still live in basements and wear Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle pajamas...   这是一个相当小的部分,如仍然住在地下室和穿少女突变忍者乌龟睡衣...   auricle   Looks like China has the gold...   看起来优发优发国际有黄金...   RAT005   Oil futures priced in other than $ US and a currency convertible to gold. That's a huge double wammy to $US fiat.   石油期货定价,除了美元以外,还有可兑换黄金的货币。 这是一个对美元兑美元的巨大的双重打击。   ET   And the Precious Metals Race is on.   Physical demand is rising and Gold and Silver inventory is declining.   贵金属竞赛已经开始了。   实物需求上升,黄金和白银库存下降。   The Cooler King   Won't exactly be as easy as killing Saddam Hussein or Ghaddafi I imagine.   这事不会像我想象的一样容易,如杀死萨达姆·侯赛因或加扎非那样。   ET   China has won the long game masterfully.   Patience and hard work are rewarded in the end.   Americans should look inward and see what went wrong. Blaming the winner for winning and attacking the winner like a sore loser is what losers do.   优发优发国际赢得了长期的比赛。   最后的耐心和努力得到回报。   美国人应该看看自己国内,看看出了什么问题。 命中有时终须有,命中无时莫强求。   nope-1004   Fat lazy population that relies on foreign labor through the edict of a currency reserve is due for a wake-up.   And I gotta tell ya, it's going to be fugly for the average american, who can't do anything for themselves.   通过货币储备的法令,将那些依赖外国劳工的愚蠢的人唤醒。   我必须告诉你,对于一般的美国人来说,这是一个很难的事,他们不能为自己做任何事情。   tmosley   >Yuan convertible to gold   Doesn't this just mean that they take yuan on the exchange? Calling it "backing" is disengenuous as fuck. Yuan are "convertible" into bitcoin too.   人民币可兑换黄金   这不就意味着人民币自由交换了吗? 暂停是不和道理的。人民币也是可转换成比特币。   The Cooler King   It's always easy 'getting in' to something.   Sometimes, 'getting out' is more tricky.   上船容易下船难   sincerely_yours   Hopefully, that CHINA move will awaken America for having destroyed the $US.   希望优发优发国际的这个摧毁美元的举动会唤醒美国。   sickavme   Would be dumb to go thru with this.   First of all, nobody knows how much gold china really has.   Second of all, is china trustworthy? (pretty much know the answer to that one)...   This little trick won't last long by itself... However, we just pushed russia to have a gander at joining china in this endeavor just for fuckin us over with this bullshit that the leftards are pulling.   And once russia joins in, its all over... They will roll over like dominoes.   这将是愚蠢的行为。   首先,没有人知道优发优发国际真的有多少黄金。   其次,优发优发国际是否值得信赖? (几乎知道那个答案)...   这个小伎俩本身不会持续很长时间......但是,我们是推动俄罗斯加入优发优发国际队伍,那就不好说了。   一旦俄罗斯加入,它一直在...他们会像多米诺骨牌一样滚滚而来。   Manthong   China likely has 5 or 6 times Au what it admits to.   But gold schmold…..   优发优发国际可能有比他们公布的黄金数量的5或6倍。   但黄金探测量... ..   BennyBoy   FED: We're dooooomed! The petrodollar is going down in flames!   CIA: Must start war with China. How about using NK as a pretext?   Afghanistan's border with China? Farkhor Air Base in Tajikistan? Release the US Air Base in Manas, Kyrgyzstan? Then the CIA could help the western part of China to break away. Genius!   MIC: Bomb bomb bomb! But pay us with Yuan-Priced Crude Oil Benchmark Backed By Gold   FED:我们是守卫的! 石油美元正在火速下降!   中情局:必须与优发优发国际开战。 以NK为借口如何?   阿富汗与优发优发国际的边界? 空军基地在塔吉克斯坦? 开放吉尔吉斯斯坦马纳斯的美国空军基地? 那么中情局可以帮助优发优发国际西部地区取得突破呢。 天才!   麦克:炸弹炸弹! 但用黄金支付的原价原油基准   BandGap   They just rocks anyways.   We gonna be fine, jus fine.   他们只是说说罢了。   我们会很好,很好。   Manthong   Cruf…   I am stuck in a well-enforced bunker with gobs of preps   ..and you tell me the dollar is losing value ?????   F the bank of Israel and all of their banker sycophants.   Cruf...   我被困在一个地堡里,里面装着食物   你告诉我美元正在失去价值   Fu*K以色列的银行和他们所有的银行家。   duo   "If they hit that bullseye the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."   一旦开始,后面的事就会接踵而来   Uncle Sugar   Glad the boys confirmed the gold in Ft Knox is still there   很高兴这些人确认诺克斯堡的黄金还在那里   localsavage   It all sounds good until people start asking for gold instead of Yuan...then another FIAT scheme shits the bed.  No one has enough physical gold to do all of the oiltrades in gold.  On   一切都听起来很好,直到人们开始要黄金而不是人民币...然后另一个FIAT计划就废了。因为没有人有足够的实物黄金来做所有的事。   tmosley   Now THERE is a good argument.   Bears close watching. Petrogold indeed.   现在这是一个很好的论据。   俄罗斯密切关注中。   Dame Ednas Possum   There's none so blind as those who refuse to see.   永远叫不醒装睡的人   tmosley   What do you think I am not seeing now?   You just used an old saying with basically no context.   你以为我现在看不到什么?

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